OCTOBER, 2002 PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES:
OCTOBER 22, 2002
1. ROLL CALL: Chair Balen called the meeting to order at
6:30 p.m. Chair Balen and Commissioners Cutter, Uhl, Cvar, Milligan, Meatzie and
Hauser answered the roll. A quorum was present.
2. CITIZEN COMMENTS AND CONCERNS: Chair Balen noted most
people were probably present to address the skatepark application. Those
comments would be considered under the public hearing. There were no other
comments.
3. COMMISSION COMMENTS AND CONCERNS: Commissioner Cutter
commented that it was nice to see so many people at the meeting. He invited them
back to see what was going on in the future as well. He expressed a concern
regarding the development of the Port area and issues of code enforcement. Chair
Balen indicated that this issue would be discussed under "New
Business". There were no other Commission comments.
4. MINUTES: The Planning Commission considered the minutes
from the September 24 Planning Commission meeting. Commissioner Meatzie moved
to approve the minutes as presented. Commissioner Uhl seconded, and the
motion carried unanimously on a voice vote.
5. CORRESPONDENCE: Chair Balen noted the only correspondence
received was associated with the Public Hearing.
6. PUBLIC HEARING: City of Waldport 6-C-02. Chair Balen opened
the public hearing, and asked for abstentions, bias, ex parte contact, etc..
Commissioner Meatzie noted that he was on the Junior League board, but felt it
would not impact his decisionmaking. Commissioner Cvar was asked about the
letter from his brother, he responded that it would have only as much impact as
any other letter submitted. There were no objections to either participating in
the hearing.
Staff Report: Mr. Lewis
reviewed his written report. He noted receipt of three letters, one from the
Lincoln County School District, one from the Waldport Junior League, and one
from Eugene Cvar.
Applicant's Presentation:
Curt Abbott, representing the skateboard site committee, stated that the
committee had been charged with looking at potential sites, specifically some
downtown areas as well as the Crestline park area. The recommendation from the
City's insurance carrier had been to put the park in a visible site both for
usability and safety. He explained that a downtown location would also provide
an opportunity to direct skateboarding activities more easily. The parks
maintenance fund is small, and the City will probably not be able to institute a
parks district for a couple more years. He explained the process of arriving at
the present proposed site, which had been originally rejected because of the
lack of space. However, with the reduction in size and overall costs, as well as
the clarification of the riparian setback, this site became feasible. Mr. Abbott
felt that the design could accommodate parking and viewing for the ballfield,
and would probably be a single-bowl design with one high area and the rest of
the park sloping down at various levels. It might also be possible to coordinate
efforts and leverage some funding to improve the restroom facilities and make
them more vandal-proof. They could then be used for the skateboarders, the
ballfield users, and the public who may be utilizing the new parking area along
Starr Street. Another alternative might be to put in portable restrooms. Mr.
Abbott explained the general dimensions of the park would be approximately 3000
square feet, all cement, with one 6-8' bowl and then sloping down to ground
level. They would be adding fill or steps to bring the edges up to the level of
the bowl, and there was a possibility that bleachers could be established on the
ballfield side of the facility. Commissioner Uhl asked about safety issues, and
Commissioner Balen wondered whether this facility could be construed as an
attractive nuisance, requiring a fence. Mr. Abbott responded that this was one
of the issues they were looking at, and they may need a fence and locking gate.
Commissioner Hauser asked about the lease with the school district and Mr.
Abbott noted that there was ongoing discussion to ensure that everyone is being
accommodated. There was no firm agreement with the school district at this
point, but he expected that would be part of the conditions of approval for the
application. The ballfields had been built by the school district, and are
maintained by the baseball league. The City provides water/sewer service.
Commissioner Cutter asked about the responsibility for locking and unlocking the
gate, and Mr. Abbott responded that his assumption would be that Public Works
would be in charge of that. Additionally the Sheriff's Department would be
responsible for enforcing the hours of operation. Commissioner Cvar asked if
this location was on the land currently leased to the
ballpark, and Mr. Abbott confirmed, noting that the lease would have to be
amended. Commissioner Meatzie expressed concerns regarding the emergency meeting
with the Junior League Board, noting that he had not been apprised of that
meeting. He stated that the Board had been under the impression that this was a
"done deal", and that the provision of portable restrooms and
bleachers had been implied. He worried that the bathrooms, which he had built
with donated materials over the course of three years, would be "taken
over" by the City. Currently, they are only open during baseball games, as
vandalism has been a problem. Additionally, the parking for the ball games would
be impeded by this structure. Mr. Abbott responded that the siting committee was
sensitive to viewing and parking issues, and there was a possibility seating
could be provided on the back side of the bowl. Commissioner Cvar asked about
the riparian setback, and Mr. Abbott explained that the original plan had been
very generous with the setback. Following the riparian study, it was found that
the facility could be moved about 30' closer to the west end of the ballfield.
Commissioner Cutter asked if the plan was to modify and enhance the restroom
facility to be used during non-ball game use. Mr. Abbott responded that the
project could be used as leverage to find dollars for a better facility, but
there were no dollars allocated in the current plan for restrooms.
Proponents/Opponents
Presentations: John Alfano addressed the Planning Commission, noting that he
had been on the original skatepark committee which had asked for the
location on Crestline. He explained that they had gotten the funding, but when
they asked to start clearing the area, they were told they could not. He felt
that the design was getting smaller because of the need to build walls and
provide fill. He also stated there were monies available for park development,
but the City did not own the ballfield area and would probably not be eligible
to apply for monies for that location.
Micah Howe, student, indicated that he
had been involved with the skatepark committee for three years, and was
currently the Chair of the Parks Committee. He did not have a preference for
location, as long as the facility was constructed. He felt that Crestline might
be better because of noise issues and the fact that there would not need to be
fill brought in. Additionally, there was the possibility that other
family-oriented activities could be encouraged at that location. He noted that
fencing was unnecessary, since the skateboarders are already aware that this
activity is dangerous after dark.
Eugene Cvar read his letter into the
record for the benefit of the audience. He noted that the use of this property
for any purpose other than for the benefit of the School District would be
challenged in court. He also asked where the authority came from to grant use of
the property to anyone other than the property owner. Mr. Lewis noted the letter
from the School District could be construed as authorization to proceed with the
conditional use application, and Mr. Cvar responded that this would be decided
in the courts as well.
Herman Welch, member of City Council,
addressed the Commission as a private citizen. He indicated that he had
supported the skatepark since the beginning and had donated money toward it. His
main concern was the safety and wellbeing of the youth. He advocated the Kendall
Field site as meeting the criteria for visibility, and noted that the medical
facility at the firehall and sheriff's substation at city hall were additional
advantages to the site.
Jan Power, resident, asked the
Commission to consider the fact that once the facility is built, skateboarders
will come. She stated that, in her experience with Eugene police department, the
first park which they had built was in an isolated area and had experienced some
problems with vandalism. Citing the lack of police presence in the City, she was
concerned about the interaction of the youth with the public. She also felt that
it was critical to provide restroom facilities to prevent public health
problems.
Bill Bailey, manager of Sa-Da-Munn,
asked the Commission to consider the needs of the "older kids" of
Waldport. He felt that this would aggressively affect the quality of life of the
tenants. Since the installation of the parking area on Starr Street, people were
parking motorhomes within 20 feet of tenant's bedrooms. The noise from the
ballfield was already noticeable, especially on the weekends, and the noise for
this facility would be even greater.
Judy Vagenas, 18-month member of the
skatepark committee, addressed the Commission. She noted that when the downtown
location came up, many people were in favor of it. She asked that the Commission
give that location every due consideration, and suggested granting the
conditional use subject to the final outcome of the school district question if
Mr. Cvar challenges it. She also suggested that they consider putting in
portable restrooms as an alternative to the high water/sewer bills, and noted
that no other skatepark facilities that she had visited had fences.
Lana Young, Sa-Da-Munn Board of
Directors member and resident, indicated that they were already experiencing
problems with skateboarders coming over the wall and into the flower beds, as
well as the increase in traffic noise. Ms. Vagenas noted that there would be a
town hall meeting on October 30 to address the youth problems.
Pat Tryon noted that at the last council
meeting, a show of hands vote was taken for the skatepark location. One
individual voted for a downtown location, everyone else in the audience voted
for Crestline. She stated that the purpose of the park property on Crestline was
to become a city park. Not just a skatepark, but also picnic facilities,
basketball courts, tennis courts. She felt that what it would take to get this
park developed was one group getting something going. Then the interest of the
rest of the community will be piqued, groups of parents will get together and
develop other areas for their kids. She felt that the impact to the residents of
Sa-Da-Munn would be detrimental, and the ballfield activity was sporadic at best
and took place mostly during the day and on weekends.
Charles Church reviewed the issue as
well. He noted that originally, the skatepark committee had asked for a donation
of land. The City had designated the Crestline Park property. The skatepark
committee raised the funds, and was then informed that they could not put the
facility where it had originally been intended to go. He expressed frustration
with the process, and noted that the City does have the ability to ask the
sheriff's department to patrol the area up on Crestline as part of the enhanced
coverage.
Steve Lamica, chair of the skatepark
committee, addressed the Commission. He noted that their goal is to put a park
in for the children. He expressed concerns about the safety of the skateboarders
during baseball games, and wondered who would be responsible for preventing the
use of the facility during those games. He also stated that Toilet Express had
given a verbal commitment to donate a portable restroom for the Crestline Park
facility.
Applicant's Rebuttal: None.
Chair Balen then closed the Public
Hearing and opened the Planning Commission meeting for deliberations.
Commissioner Cvar stated that he was
upset with the fact that two months ago, when the City applied for a skatepark
on John Street, he had at that time complained about the lack of information.
The City sets the rules and standards for all applications, and what was
required for a CUP was a plot plan drawn to scale, showing all property lines,
buildings, water & sewer lines and other pertinent information. He indicated
that he would expect that the City would provide the same amount of information
it would require from any other citizen. Commissioner Cvar moved to deny
the application for lack of information. Commissioner Milligan seconded,
noting that she was also concerned with the lack of detail provided.
Commissioner Hauser agreed, and indicated she had an additional concern about
the agreement with the School District, as the letter was very vague and had
been drafted back in July. With the current changes going on, she felt that a
firm agreement was needed before any project could proceed. Commissioner Cutter
noted that he thought they had made it explicit that they would not consider
another application which did not contain detail. He was concerned that the
issues of safety, parking, fences and restrooms had not appeared to be addressed
by the skatepark committee, and felt that though the placement on Crestline was
not optimal, it was certainly better than the Kendall Field location.
Commissioner Uhl concurred with the rest of the Commission. Commissioner Meatzie
abstained from expressing an opinion. Commissioner Balen noted that he was
unhappy with the fact that they only had a sketchy diagram to review, and also
felt that there were too many "unknowns" and lack of detail for the
Commission to make a good decision. The motion to deny the application then carried
unanimously on a voice vote.
7. OLD BUSINESS: None.
8. NEW BUSINESS:
A. Planner's Report:
Mr. Lewis reviewed his written report. Commissioner Cutter asked if a checklist
could be developed to assist an applicant in applying for a CUP. Mr. Lewis noted
that the City's application was an odd situation, as there were limited dollars
to develop a detailed site plan, which would probably only be done once the
location is established. Commissioner Cutter noted that the standards should be
the same for all applicants. Commissioner Cvar agreed that a final design would
be expensive and difficult to obtain, however, there had been too many
suppositions with no supporting documentation in the presentation. Mr. Lewis
commented that it appeared the Crestline park application had been equally as
vague.
B. November/December
Meeting Dates: Following a brief discussion, consensus of the Commission
was that the next meeting would be Thursday, November 21. Unless there is an
emergency, there will be no meeting in December.
C. OTHER ISSUES: Chair Balen noted
distribution of a draft letter regarding Planning Commission concerns about the
most frequently violated development code requirements. He welcomed review of
the document, and asked for additions or comments from the Commission. He will
then publish the document in the local paper. Additionally, staff will develop a
FAQ sheet and checklist of items which should accompany conditional use and
other applications.
9. ADJOURNMENT: At 8:33 p.m., there being no further business
to come before the Commission, Commissioner Hauser moved to adjourn.
Commissioner Meatzie seconded, and the motion carried unanimously
on a voice vote.
Respectfully submitted,
Reda A. Quinlan
City Clerk
APPROVED by the Waldport Planning Commission this 21st day of November, 2002.
SIGNED by the Planning Commission Chair this 21st day of November,
2002.
Sam Balen, Planning Commission Chair
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